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Top 10 Iconic Fictional Duos List
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A great fictional duo can make a whole story feel bigger and a bad duo can ruin it fast. We put that theory to the test by drafting our Top 10 non-romantic fictional duos across TV shows, movies, animation, and comics, and we do it the only way we know how: loud, opinionated, and just organized enough to keep the list from exploding. If you love pop culture debates, character chemistry, and arguments that somehow turn into math, this one is built for you.
We start with personal picks and quickly hit the big questions: does a duo have to be “healthy” to be great, or is dysfunction part of the appeal? That takes us from the messy greatness of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman to the clean crowd-pleaser energy of Woody and Buzz, plus the timeless heart of Calvin and Hobbes. We also wrestle with what counts as iconic, how nostalgia bends rankings, and why certain pairings like Han Solo and Chewbacca feel legendary even when not everyone loves both characters equally.
Then we bring out a bonus round that lets us reshuffle the list, followed by a sour candy challenge that earns one last change and proves we will do anything for a better ranking. We close by calling out overrated duos, not to dunk on them, but to ask what we actually value in storytelling: influence, writing, or pure watchability. Subscribe for more culture-with-humor drafts, share this with a friend who argues about rankings, and leave a review with your must-have duo we forgot.
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Why Duos Matter
SPEAKER_03You cannot save yourself. You're not meant to go through this life alone. You need a partner. You need someone who's by your side through thick and thin, through sickness and in health, and in death and taxes. And that partner could also be called, you guys together could be called a duo. Yes. Right? So today we're talking about. Were you gonna say something?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's hoping.
SPEAKER_00I just said sure.
SPEAKER_03Why did she say something?
SPEAKER_00Sure.
SPEAKER_03This is my partner. But we're not doing romantic partnerships.
SPEAKER_01That's what I was waiting at. That's what I was gonna jump in with. We are doing top ten fictional duos. Oh yeah. Non-romantic fictional duos. No couples. Ficou. That'll be a separate list. Fick.
SPEAKER_03Whoa. Fic. Oh my gosh, I'm Josh.
SPEAKER_01I'm Rachel.
SPEAKER_03I'm Calvin. Fick me. I'm disturbed. And this is relatively terrible. I love you, but you're all terrible. Welcome back to the Relatively Terrible Podcast. We are the Uploads of Fun Family, questioning culture with humor and just enough dysfunction to feel normal.
Rules For The Duo Draft
SPEAKER_03Today we're doing our top ten fictional duos.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah!
SPEAKER_03Just to recap, we're not doing any romantic couples or husbands and wives, because we all know Rachel and I would be number one anyway. So, Jackson, start us off with your top five fictional duos.
SPEAKER_02Walter and Jesse from Breaking Bad, Carl and Russell from Up, Kim and Jimmy from Better Call Saul, Mike and Jesse from Breaking Bad, and Batman and Joker, the Dark Knight version. You know that list is Toy Toy Toy!
SPEAKER_01I guess you get away with Kim and Jimmy because they didn't start out as a romantic duo.
SPEAKER_03They were always kind of the really to me never were an official. They even even when they got married. Spoiler alert. Hold on. Spoiler alert. Even when they got married, it was just it was just a play.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It was okay. I was gonna ask you about Batman and Joker, and you confirmed it for me. So Calvin, what's your top five? Uh I have Phineas Fer, Wallace and Gromit, Kerman, Fozzie, Walter, and Jesse Morty, and Buzz. Okay, Rachel.
SPEAKER_01I have Han and Chewie. Corey and Sean.
SPEAKER_02From Boymeets Worlds. Absolutely horrible.
SPEAKER_01I have Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson. Calvin and Hobbs and Rick and Morty.
SPEAKER_03Okay, let me see if I can do mine from memory. I'm gonna start off, I'm gonna explain a couple of mine because I don't think people are gonna know who they are. First of all, let's start out with Tim Kramblin and Sam Duvet from the Detroiters, which it's Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson from a show called the Detroiters. We got Dale Dobak and Brennan Huff.
SPEAKER_01So good. Stepbrothers, Boats and Hoes. You guys know what we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03So good. Got Doc Brown and Marty McFly. Okay. Sloth and Chunk. Come on. Sloth Moth Chunk. And my fifth one. I know it. Oh my gosh, hold on. Alright, what is it?
SPEAKER_01Seth and Evan. Yes, from Super Bad. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Never seen it. And I did look it up. I I don't think they have their last names, at least not on IMDB.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't know. Just Seth and Evan. So it's it's Jonah Hill and Michael Sarah's character.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they've never seen Superbad. He's 18 now. He's welcome to watch it anytime he wants, I guess.
SPEAKER_02Ever since I've turned 18, I've been watching Homicide Hunter on my own.
SPEAKER_01So that's what your teen that's what your 18-year-old self is doing is Homicide Hunter.
SPEAKER_02Are you for real? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Joe Kenda?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Good for you. I like that show. You could have watched it before you turned 18. That's what you're watching?
SPEAKER_02That's the worst shit to watch before you go to sleep. I'm like, why am I watching?
SPEAKER_01You know what I wish he would do though? You know how they have those apps for sleep, and they'll have different celebrities that like read to you or whatever. Obviously.
SPEAKER_02Joe Joe should be on that.
SPEAKER_01Joe kind of should be on that. His voice is very fair. You didn't say something to him at that airport pisses me off still. Grandpa!
SPEAKER_03Do you know what apps are?
SPEAKER_02Grandpa! Hilarious. I can't believe that's what you're watching.
SPEAKER_03You can watch Superman. Nah, I'm gonna watch Homicide Hunter. That guy, I really click with him. He he seems like we're the sick mage. Here we go.
Rick And Morty Plus Batman Debate
SPEAKER_03Oh Rick and Morty. That is a strong start. I just will say, real quick, I don't understand Rick and Morty at all. And I know my wife doesn't do drugs, but sometimes when I walk into the room and she's watching Rick and Morty, I'm like, she probably does drugs. But there's I mean, there's a lot of people that love them, even though I don't love the show, there's a lot of things I love from it. I really want to watch Rick and Morty. When you're 18, son.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you could watch a couple episodes now. Some of them are but their relationship is highly dysfunctional. Um it's highly dysfunctional, but it's it's it's a good show. I I mean for me, I would put this at nine because I'm really the only one that's enjoyed it, and you guys haven't seen it. It is iconic.
SPEAKER_02The only thing I know is Pickle Rick. That's pretty much it. Pickle Rick!
SPEAKER_01And that episode is great. So my vote is nine.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna argue with that. That's nine.
SPEAKER_01All right, we got Batman and Joker, which I have to say is much better than Batman and Robin because no one cares about Robin.
SPEAKER_02Robin sucks. Robin can suck a fat one. The Joker lives for Batman, and the Batman will always go after the Joker. They are made for each other. That scene and the dark night, that intervention scene is one of the best scenes in all of cinema. And you know it's an iconic duo when even little kids know what you're talking about. Little kids know Batman, they know the Joker. Yeah. Because they've made it now for kids, which is really weird.
SPEAKER_03I think it's an interesting choice to put a duo up there that are enemies. But you're right. You can't have Batman without Joker, you can't have Joker without the Batman.
SPEAKER_01And that's how those characters were written. Like they they feed off of each other. So that is, it's really interesting. I'm good with five. I think it's I would have seven.
SPEAKER_03But I was gonna say six. Do we want to do math?
SPEAKER_02I do the math. So five is ten. Plus six is six.
SPEAKER_03Sixteen plus six is seven. Seven. Yeah, six.
SPEAKER_01That's fine. Alright, Batman a joke.
SPEAKER_03Whoa, that did math! Because guess what? These are fictional characters, so we shouldn't get too butthurt over this.
SPEAKER_02None of this is my turn!
SPEAKER_03My butt feels good. Said Robin after he tried a fat one.
Wallace And Gromit Under Fire
SPEAKER_02Foolish and grommet! Four. Four. The f I my problem with the Batman and Robin thing is you're going based off. You mean Batman and Joker? Batman and Joker, my bad. You're going based off the movie. I like that's kind of my feelings.
SPEAKER_01But even the comics in the other movies, Batman and Joker.
SPEAKER_03I think Wallace and Gromit are one of the most perfect duos because of how they feed off of each other. Like, um Wallace would die without Grommets.
SPEAKER_01Wallace and Grommet is sort of like the epitome of like everything good about British television. It's a lot like Jeeves and Wooster, where you have, you know, the butler or you have the dog that doesn't speak, who is actually the real hero. Wallace and Gromet. Gromet is the reason, you know, Wallace survives and gets him out of all of his trouble. Just like, you know, uh Jeeves is always saving Wooster. It's it's just a very classic sort of setup.
SPEAKER_02Wallace and Gromit reminds me of an abusive relationship. You got one who talks all the time and one who never says a word. It's a dog. It's a dog. Oh, what? Oh, okay. So we're in this world where there were cremation characters talk, but the dogs don't. Yes, those are the rules. Because it's the universe, it's not a family dog.
SPEAKER_03It's a dog that can do everything else but talk. I don't I wouldn't say he could do everything else.
SPEAKER_01He can drive a car.
SPEAKER_03He can drive a car. Dogs could do that.
SPEAKER_01He it, I mean, again, you just you just have to accept the universe for what it is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, he can make it.
SPEAKER_03We're not gonna stand for this dog racism right now. Like dogs can stop. Dogs can drive cars just like white men.
SPEAKER_01But they just can't speak while they're doing it.
SPEAKER_02Even when you search up iconic duos online, Wallace and Gromit is always number one.
SPEAKER_01On that buzzfeed list I looked up, they were number one.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say three. Wow, real? I'm fine with three. Well, I'm gonna get it down, so I'll say ten and we'll average it out.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what do you say? I mean, I'm good with three, so that's six.
SPEAKER_03So 19 divided by four is four and a half.
SPEAKER_02I would do four. So you have four remainder three. You got it down to four. Hold on, if it's four and a half, then we go to five.
SPEAKER_01Because Wow, he is very admirable. Hold on a second.
SPEAKER_02All right, real quick. We go to five. You round that shit up. Corey and Shark. Ten. Ten. What the fuck? Ten! Say it! Ten! Pause! Corey and Sean. You didn't even say it before you said ten. You said corners of ten. Course of ten. Of course you're ten. Clory and Sean. From Boy Meets World of a show, no one watches anymore.
SPEAKER_01Listen, let me let me know.
SPEAKER_03You just don't be disrespectful to your brother like that. That show got you through the damn pandemic.
SPEAKER_01We did watch all of it during the pandemic, but let me just say, I was very close to putting like Stewie and Brian, like from Family Guy on here. But I went with Corey and Sean just because I was trying to like think back to childhood and thinking about like, regardless of what you think of that show, and it is not a perfect show. Like I it's just it's their friendship. They're friends at the beginning, they're friends at the end. Yep.
SPEAKER_03And they're the one constant of that show.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And like they did so much stupid nonsense with Corey and Topanga, especially once they got married. I'm good with putting this at 10.
SPEAKER_03It's not iconic, but Corey and Sean at 10. Here we go. Yikes. Yikes. Brennan Huff and Dale Dobak, the mother and stepbrothers. I'm putting these bad boys at two. I was gonna say one or two. The step brothers, dude.
SPEAKER_02Boats and hoes. Boats and hoes. That movie is based off them being a duo. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go two. I'll go two.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'm just gonna put it on stepbrothers.
SPEAKER_03And just FYI, if you've never seen Stepbrothers and you watch it and you love it, don't go watch uh the other one they made with them. It was a Sherlock Holmes spoof and think it's gonna be good. It's not. Next. Is it ass? It's total ass.
SPEAKER_01Would you get Han and Chewy? One or three. Seven. Eight!
SPEAKER_02Eight. Eight. I don't think they're that good. I would go. Do we have seven? I would go seven. It's between that. I don't think they're top five. I don't even know what Chewy's saying, but if he could talk, he'd be like, this guy's a dick.
SPEAKER_01Han and Chewy. And you would.
SPEAKER_03Chewy'd be like, this guy's a dick. I just kind of hang around because Leia's hot.
SPEAKER_02Jackson? The problem is Han is Harrison Ford. Chewy, I love Chewy. Han, I don't.
SPEAKER_03Okay, instead of sulking over there, Jackson and Rachel, you're both doing the same thing. You look like you're related.
SPEAKER_02Like I don't really like Han. Chewy, I do.
SPEAKER_01Jackson.
SPEAKER_03So do you want four or seven? Four or seven.
SPEAKER_01We could do seven.
SPEAKER_02Seven. Yes. Seven?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, seven. Seven?
SPEAKER_01I'll do seven.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow. Then why do I need to say anything? You don't. I'll take seven. Yeah. Han and Chewy at seven. This bonus round might be worse than the bands. Oh boy.
SPEAKER_01Han and Chewy not being top five is I don't. I just don't like Han.
SPEAKER_02Sam Duvet and Tim Kramlin. Yes. I'll say eight eight. Oh. A eight. Come on.
SPEAKER_03Listen, that show. Hold on a second. Well, that show's incredible. I like that show. It's a good show. Every episode has something funny. Um, it did, it only lasted two seasons, but I don't think that has anything to do with it getting canceled or anything. I think they just went different ways and did different things. It was made by um who's the guy who made Saturday Live? What's that guy's name? Jimmy Kimmel. No. No, Tommy Michael. Michael uh anyways, Lauren Michaels. Lauren Michaels. Yeah, Michael Lauren. Lauren Michaels produced that show. It was a great show. And I think they're a great duo because I think what it was is their friendship in real life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, their friendship makes that whole entire show. And then the fact that he's married to his sister, it's just like the best.
SPEAKER_02Doc Brown and Marty McFly. One.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_02No. No. No. No. Four. Now you're gonna fight. Four. One of the most overrated duos ever.
SPEAKER_01I wouldn't say that, but I'll say five I think they're I think they deserve top five.
SPEAKER_03No, they're not. Are you trying to become like a story on Homicide Hunter?
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_02Gee. I mean, I think that's better to the future to find his body, sorry. Even though I despise two and three, I think they're great in both of those movies, even though two and three suck.
SPEAKER_01I would say four for this.
SPEAKER_03I think I need a lot more prayer in my life. Obviously, there's not enough prayer and things are just not going.
SPEAKER_01One, three, or four?
SPEAKER_03Four. Four. Four is fine. I'll fix it in the bonus round. You'll see. Kim and Jimmy from Better Call Saul.
SPEAKER_01Three. Yeah, it can't be one.
SPEAKER_02No, three's okay. Three, three's okay, but that needs to go away. Yeah, there's a this this list kind of sucks. It's kind of buns. It's kinda buns. The f we're getting all the bones. You guys have never heard that. It's kinda buns? Yeah, ass. It's just another way to say ass. Wow. My parents are old. Go ahead, Rach. That's the last slide. What do you think that was buns, girl? Oh. Ooh. It's 140! And number one. Feasive firm! Number one. What? That's a good one. That they are a great duo. You can't deny it. Come on, you can't deny that. It's Wallace and Gromit in cartoon form. One talks all the time. One doesn't. And their sister's always busted.
SPEAKER_01Because you can't have stop.
SPEAKER_00She doesn't!
SPEAKER_02She does, Mom. She does. I know I'm not sure how to do it. She's like I'm about to bust y'all! That's what she says. Okay, but am I the only one that's ever noticed that? Also, Fer does talk. Just not all the time. But it goes and bust.
SPEAKER_03Ayo, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01But you can't have in a duo, in any duo, real fictional, marital couple, whatever. You can't have two people that either never speak or two people who also never shut up. Like that's a duo that's not gonna work. They have to compliment each other. I'm just saying. Can I say something?
SPEAKER_03What is it? Wait, why do you think that's a good thing? This is what she just said. And I was like, can I say something? And she's like, Here are the honorable mentions Mike and Jesse, Carl and Russell from Up, Sloth and Chunk from The Goonies, Sherlock and Dr. Holmes from The Amazing Adventures of Sherlock Holmes or something, some shit like that. Calvin and Hobbes from your Saturday paper when you were 41 in 1980. Walter and Jesse from Toy Story? What? Oh, different Jesse. Breaking Bad. I'm sorry. Kermit and Fozzie from the Lumpets and the Muppets. Woody and Buzz from Toy Stories 1 through 5 and all the other side shows. And Seth and Evan from Breaking Bad. I mean Super Bad, sorry.
SPEAKER_01Super bad. A lot of bad on here.
SPEAKER_03Here's the
Bonus Round Rewrites The Top
SPEAKER_03bonus round. So remember, you can swap two, you can take one off and replace it with an honorable mention. The one you take off becomes an honorable mention. But once a place has changed, that place can no longer be changed. Jackson, would you like to start this time? Yeah, I would. How's it feel to one? I'm going first. Damn. I'm just kidding.
unknownGo ahead.
SPEAKER_02Uh, number one's gonna be Walter and Jesse breaking bad. Like the most dysfunctional duo known too. Seriously.
SPEAKER_01It it is. I mean, it's right there with like Rick and Morty. It's very dysfoncal. Iconic?
SPEAKER_03Iconic though. Yeah. He literally sold out J spoiler alert. He literally sold out Jesse to those bikers, which they enslaved him and then held him hostage to make meth for them. And then, oh, look at Mr. Hero. Walter White comes in at the ends and saves him and then dies.
SPEAKER_02It's not a best duo? It's not a happy eddy. Makes for great television.
SPEAKER_03I'm not denying that. You are right, but damn.
SPEAKER_01I mean, New York Times did just put out their list of the top TV shows, and Breaking Bad was number one.
SPEAKER_03Hands down.
SPEAKER_01I think.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_02What are you doing, Cal? I'm sorry, but I'm getting Toy Story as high as I can, so I'm putting it at number two. I gotta get Woody and Stepbrothers.
SPEAKER_01What are you putting there? That stung.
SPEAKER_02Woody and Buzz.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, that stung.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna help him get Phineas and Fur back on the list, but I don't think I can do that anymore.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry, but it's I gotta get it up there. What are you doing in this bonus round?
SPEAKER_01Hang on, I'm trying to remember.
SPEAKER_02He actually wrote Woody and Buzz.
SPEAKER_01He did. I don't like, I'm sorry, but I don't like Jim and Kimmy at number three. So that's that's gotta go.
SPEAKER_02What are you putting on?
SPEAKER_01Um, give me a s hang on, you can edit this out. I'm just thinking. I'm trying to remember what all is left.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I can thank you for telling me because I didn't know I could edit things out.
SPEAKER_01F you! I'm trying to help you out.
SPEAKER_03Damn!
SPEAKER_01Get out of here! Is that for real? Did he really just criticize me for being like trying to add a cut? I was just trying to help you out, man! I'm just kidding. I was kidding too, kind of.
SPEAKER_02I'm starting to understand why in a duo one of them has to be quiet. I know mom's theme song, Saint Anger.
SPEAKER_01So at number three, I'm putting Calvin and Hobbes. It's an iconic duo. I read all of the comics as a kid. Like, I just I love it. I still have you just bought me the whole uh crossover thing with uh Star Wars in them, so I just I gotta get them all.
SPEAKER_02Dragon Con.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So Okay, what are you doing, Dad? So we're basically just re-rewriting the top five.
SPEAKER_03So I'm getting rid of Batman and Joker. Yeah. And I'm putting uh Dale Doe back.
SPEAKER_01Okay, Gain Step Brothers back on there.
SPEAKER_03And Brennan Huff. And I also, while I understand why you picked them and there's a lot of good reasoning for it, I don't think they're a good duo. Just like I don't think Walter and Jesse is a good duo, but I can't do anything about it.
SPEAKER_01I think that I think a good duo is a subjective term. I mean they're kind of a terrible duo, but that's what makes them so good.
SPEAKER_02But I'm thinking of like, in terms of watchability, watching them fight, watching them work well together, watching Jesse say, a robot? Like that's come on, bitch! Yeah, bitch magnets, come on.
SPEAKER_03Right. And then to know how it's gonna end.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Anytime he needed that, knowing that he watched Jesse's girlfriend die, anytime he needed that, as soon as he had a moment, like right into his wound, I'm like, that's great.
SPEAKER_02That was badass.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's a great TV show. Not a good duo. Okay, so we've got this list. It is technically done.
Sour Candy Super Bonus Swap
SPEAKER_03If you want to make any changes, we'll go to the super bonus round. If you can do the sour candy without spitting it out and making a face.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And without making a face.
SPEAKER_03You can you can make one more change.
SPEAKER_02I'll try it. I will. Alright, Jax. Look at that.
SPEAKER_03Can't make a face. How long do wait a minute, hold on. How long do I have? You gotta keep it in your mouth till the sour goes away.
SPEAKER_02That's hold on a second. How long is that gonna take?
SPEAKER_03Listen.
SPEAKER_02All right, Jax. This whole thing is our later.
SPEAKER_01You I'll do it with you. I'll do it with you. And you can go first.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01I'll do it with you.
SPEAKER_03We're all gonna do it except for Calvin.
SPEAKER_01All right, ready? Three, three, two, two.
SPEAKER_02That's that's my ultimate space. Oh that's it. Oh that's a curious. Okay. My source. I try. Oh I'm not no, I'm not trying the challenge. I just want to try it. Might as well try the challenge. Go.
SPEAKER_03It's still sour. Don't take it out.
SPEAKER_02Damn it, Calvin! Holy shit!
SPEAKER_03I did it. So I didn't make it. Calvin obviously didn't make it. Rachel and Jackson. You got you get to make one more change, but you can't mess with any of the ones that are already.
SPEAKER_01That was definitely the most sour thing I've ever eaten.
SPEAKER_02I told you. Alright, you know what? I'll leave Wallace and Groundman on there. I like that one. Not Doc Brown. I'm putting Carl and Russell from up. Look, I earned that. Alright, that no, I said you can make one more change.
SPEAKER_01Alright, right.
SPEAKER_02That was horrible.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'm gonna get rid of Corey and Sean at number 10.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01And I think I think Phineas and Furb does deserve to be on this list.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I do enjoy that show on them as a duo. I was pretty, pretty good.
Final Top Ten Plus Overrated Picks
SPEAKER_03Alright, our final top ten fictional duos of all time. Number 10, Phineas and Furb. Nine, Rick and Morty. Eight, Tim Kramlin and Sam Duvet. Seven, Han and Chewy. Six, Dale Dobak and Brennan Huff. Five, Wallace and Gromit. Four, Carl and Russell. Three, Calvin and Hobbs. Two, Woody and Buzz. Yes. And one, Walter and Jesse. On that crystal ship, baby. Dang. I'm good with this list. Can't deny those are some great duos on that list. Alright, to end this, we are all going to talk about one overrated duo, which apparently means they're overrated, but you don't hate them. So you can kind of get up, you can kind of get away with hating them. Cool. Go ahead, Jax.
SPEAKER_02Wallace and Gromit. I grew up with those and you know I used to love them, but now watching them, they give me the ick. Alright, Calvin. Ooh. Um you guys won't know this one, but I think from God of War 2018, I think uh Kratos and his son, I think are overrated. His son is annoying a shit in that game. I think he's horrible. Wow. Damn, that might actually stir some bees. Yeah. That game is so popular. People put God of War is like the best game of all time. It is not. I can name five games that are better. Rachel's Candy Crush better. Okay, Rachel, save us.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna say Luke and Leia. I mean, brother and sister making out weird, weird vibes there. Like, and I'm sorry, but like honestly, Luke Skywalker is like the most overrated character of Star Wars. Like, not the best.
SPEAKER_02And then him and Leia, like, eh, well then he grows up to be an old, just a little bitch.
SPEAKER_01I didn't care for the way they they ended his character either. So yeah, I'll say, I'll say Luke and Leia, I guess.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I'm I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Hawkeye and Black Widow.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_03Like literally, who cares? And they literally don't have any superpowers. And when they're when I'm watching them in like Endgame and Infinity War, I'm like, and they're almost dead, they're almost dead, they're almost dead. Oh, got lucky. They're almost dead, they're almost dead. Oh, got lucky.
SPEAKER_02I mean, what I hate is that they're always trying to make make it seem like they're gonna get together, but then you remember, oh, Hawkeye's married. Yeah, he's literally married and Ellie, and they're trying to make you think that they are going to get together. No, they're they're just friends. Because she's listen, whole okay. In Endgame, before they decide who's gonna die, their heads are literally like up against each other, like we're gonna kiss.
SPEAKER_03They're friends. They're not. No, I disagree. They make it seem like they're gonna get together. That's the one thing I like about their relationship. It's a relationship between a guy and a girl where they're actually just friends and they really care about each other.
SPEAKER_02I get that, but don't make it seem like they're gonna get together. They didn't. Yes, they were.
SPEAKER_03She was she was gonna get whole if it wasn't so big. No, not that. No, I never got that vibe. I always got the vibe that they were like a brother and sister.
SPEAKER_02I always got the vibe that they were gonna get together, but then I remember, oh, that's right, he's married. Because literally during endgame. But if she was a boy, would you have said they were still trying to make him kiss?
SPEAKER_03No. Just prove my point, Calvin.
SPEAKER_02But literally the beginning scene of Endgame, it's like, okay, as a family. Then later on, I'm like, oh, they're gonna kiss. And then at the end they show his family, and I'm like, oh my god. Okay. They're like brother and sister. Oh, smell that. Smell to smell that.
SPEAKER_00Get it out of it. Oh, oh!
SPEAKER_02Sorry about that. It's rolling.
SPEAKER_03It was terrible.